Will with the election over and Susan still in power, I wonder what went wrong? Was it that there were to many oppents or was it not enough campaigning? I would answer yes on both. I think that Randy Warren who would be a much better choice, should have done a lot more to take on Susan. Besides a press release, and talking to some people close to the election I would wager that Randy needed to spend some money to get out among the voters with some ads. I also beleive if he had posted on the site a bit more he would have had another free avenue to let voters know what the issues are.
The Deputy
HUH????????? there is the General Elections
you said: Will with the election over and Susan stuill in power, I wonder what went wrong? How the heck is she still in power?.. her term of office ends on the 31st of Dec,unles she is relected. There is no doubt no one using this sight read the newspapers,ever, watches TV. ever or attend any meetings of the City Council or County Commissioners. Why do I say this... hey all you gee wiszzes.. have you never ever heard of Chuck Miller???? or am I living in a void maybe?... yea.. here in Lawton and Comanche County its one giant void with none of our elected officlas following the laws.But... Susan still in power..... drive around the county... you will see signs saying Chuck Miller Commissioner district 3 .. building a better county.... or maybe need to take the blinders off so you can see a bit to left and right... of course now cant put any signs up in the city limits until 7 Sept.. ordinance says so.. but in county... they are going up... fast as I can considering the heat ....unless some of you folks who seem to be making the noise want to help.... and I aint asked for a penny.. its all coming out of my pocket.... btw.... here is a number to call.... very interesting info here.. its the OKlahoma State Ethics Commission.... it is where you MUST file all your spending,contributions etc if you are running for office .... very intersting reading it you do some looking.... 1-405-521-3451...
Now if you go on up to the capitol The Ethics Office is in the basement and it will cost you 25 cents a page.... name the person you want to know about and they will copy it out for you... only thing this is a new service and at this time the only info on line is for the candidates for State Offices and above. county cnadidates will be on soon,but none so far. Will say this... lot of money has been spent by county wannabees... and if you do check... may find one or two who have not filed any paper so far... nowthat is an interesting point since all the signs etc that were planted,and the dont come cheap... but....... well go on line to the Oklahoma state web site and read whats on the Ethics Commission rules.. then check out county candidates and see for yourself. Have an idea you will find there are a lot of un-ethical and im-moral folks who are wannabees in this State.
And isnt it so interesting who votes them in all the time.... makes you wonder.. will Oklahoma ever grow up and progress... or will it just be a bunch of Sooners......sooner screw you than do it right.....sooner you do it then me... sooner you get screwed than me... sooner throw my trash out the window on the road than put it in a bag... real "Sooners"....me first screw you......all little sooners... the real SOONERS>>>>> they are the ones who will make Oklahoma and this county grow... just need a heck of a lot more of them to be born and riased here.... if you are a for REAL SOONER check it all out and take a big look.... look here at my website for the real stuff... only about 5000 pages of documents that will show you how crooked Comanche County has been for years and years and years... but now .. the sooners are the one who vote...... get out and vote ... and can be big changes..... why am I ranting and raving... hey... I am the one guy who has the guts to say it.. we have cheats and liars in our county goverenment....who am I?.. Chuck Miller.. the only fully qualified candiate for the position of County Commissioer in District 3. And when I say fully qulified... will ask... if you wear a skirt,how can you climb up on a road grader or dozer or bucket loader to show a guy how it works.... how do you crawl under a bridge to see where its messed up... shoooo...... you know in a skirt it can be messed up and get dirty... break a few fingernails. maybe.. or see a snake or rat... .. but now... hey... sooners go... right...... am gonna stop here but if you want to see the real stuff... check me out....... chuck miller... web site is
wwww.chuckmiller2006.com
and yea.. I am a registerd republican.. but I dont and wont toady up to anyone in any party.. all I want to do serve the folks in District 3 as I served this country for 23 years in the US Army.......
CHarles "Chuck" Miller
WWW.CHUCKMILLER2006.COM
chuck miller
Chuck Miller for County Commissioner????
Chuck… Chuck… Chuck!!! You were the one that criticized the most honest, most ethical, most efficient county commissioner that this county has ever had, or at least had in a very long time.
David Pope, a devout Christian, has more integrity in his little finger that most people have in their whole body. His ethics are impeccable. His honesty is genuine. He tried his best to do what is best for the citizens, all citizens, of Comanche County whether they lived in the county or the city of Lawton.
He tried to run the county as efficiently and stop the waste. What did he get for not being one of the ‘good ole boys’? He got more criticism than any of the commissioners because he did not ‘play the game’.
Every charge the sheriff came up with was dismissed. Every criticism the county residents tried to put forth was dismissed with facts.
You never know what you have until it is gone! Now we have Ron Kirby… what a waste.
As far as your credentials I can’t comment as I really don’t know you. However I have been at the commissioners meetings when you were there and it appears that you are not interested in the county as a whole but in you own agenda. It appears that you consider the residents of the county more important that the citizens of the county that live within the city limits. But remember, more people live within the city limits and pay more taxes than the citizens outside of the city limits. Nonetheless all citizens should be respected and represented equally. I don’t feel that you will do that or at least you have not shown any indications that you will.
Now saying all of this, if I were to vote for the lesser of two evils I would vote for you because history, three and a half years, has shown that Susan can’t do the job she was elected to do. Do I think you will win? No I don’t and it is only because that the yellow dog democrats will vote democratic again and again. I think if Hitler was alive and running as a democrat that he would be elected. The apathy that exits today will ensure that the democrats, who out number republicans two to one, will win. I will predict that on 15% of the registered voters will vote in the fall election.
As far as the other two commissioners go, Gail will not make a move or a decision until he has talked it over with Buddy Green. Buddy has Gail in his back pocket. And Ron, the adulterous drunk wife beater, who created a job for his sex offender nephew, will probably be re-elected again only because he is a democrat. You see, as far as the county offices go, the citizens have elected a democrat 99.9% of the time no matter what. It is a very sad comment for the robotic democrats that can’t seem to think for themselves.
Then we have a county treasurer that filed bankruptcy while she was in office. Isn’t that a great item for a resume? If she can’t manage her own personal money affairs how did we really expect her to manage the county’s money affairs? She was always wasting tax dollars with her bad decisions. She ran the office as though it was hers and not the peoples. She was almost always late getting the tax statements out. The treasurer’s office computers still can not share information with the other offices. And she could never understand that 1/8 of a point was smaller than 1/2 of a point. Thank God she decided not to run again. But the democrats did not get a republican opponent, who would not win anyway, and we now have Barbara Burk who trained under the worse county treasurer in the history of Comanche County. We can only hope she will not follow in Cindy’s footsteps!
What a sad state of affairs our county is in!
It is really a shame that more people, with the integrity, the ethics and the honesty of David Pope, will not stand up to campaign for public office. It is a shame that more politicians won’t do what’s right rather than trying to do only what they think will get them re-elected again and again.
I really hope you do win the election. I also hope that, if you do get elected, you will put aside all personal agendas and do what is right for the citizens, all of the citizens, of Comanche County and run your office in a responsible and ethical manner.
I would like to see the jail combined. I would like to see that the 911 system be combined. I know it will never happen but I would like to see a Comanche County Metro law enforcement overseeing the entire county.
You see, as inflation goes up each year, the expenses continue to go up. We need to look at the most efficient want to run the government and quit the petty us and them policy. We are all citizens of Comanche County and we need to see our tax dollars work wisely and not for the personal agenda of the elected officials.
geez..... where are you guys coming from...
RobertH... no idea who you are.... since you are in hidding.... but....
I have no agenda... none other than to serve the citizens of the county... not one city over another..... as to Lawton paying more taxes etc.... think you need to do some number crunchings.... will find Lawton isnt as big as it claims to be... Fort Sill numbers dont count as property owners... nor do those who live outside city limits but are counted since the zipcode is what is used to count population... its a system called ZCAT... zip code area tabulation. devised and used by the Census bureau..... my zip for instance is 73507... yep.. downtown Lawton but my home where I live is about 2 miles west of I44 and a mile north of Fort Sill off hiway 49... as are many other folks living in the rural areas but we are considered as being a number of the popu;ation figures for the city of Lawton......so that number is in actuallity totally incorrect.if you get a copy of the master addressing guide for the county you will quickly find what I am saying is true.... but is easier to believe our very highly intelligent qualified politicians as the local media makes them out to be.... You forget or are not aware that governement is set up in the state at 3 levels.... state,county and city.this is for an orderly process of governmental process at each level.... and property taxes by far goes to the school system first... then a small millage is taken for county general funds. But one big thing you totally ignore is just about every county citizen pays Lawton city sales taxes.... so when you look at the numbers the tax deal pretty much equals out and its absolutlety totally of no consequnece to be used in determing who is more important ... no city resident has more priorty than a rural resident. That is one of the most assinine reasonings that is promulegated by the politicinas here in this county. It has never been raised by Oklahoma or Tulsa countys and they sure are one heck of a lot bigger than this one. Take a look at how the county is set up by its districts and you will see why and how this thought process came about... each district is to be set in the year of the census and the county is to be divided into 3 equal parts by population. Compare every other county in Oklahoma and then look at the district map of Comanche County.... It is the only county in the state that has one district completly made up a majority of its largest city.BTW... they call that gerrymandering.....you do remember your American history I am sure... or hope so.... but if need be let me know and will explain that process to you.... ....and by law there is no such districts named central,eastern or western... they are to be numbered one,two and ,three....so this little deal of Central Command....crooked commissioners of a few years back came up with that deal.... And your idea of one police,jail 911 and all else..... heck.. why not just change the name of the county to Lawton. then the county will be one big city.... run by some real winners... just think of all the urban renewal projects the city can be foisting on the people. And the diversion of funds they can play with.
As to David Pope..... well...... ask why he never had the trust authority deal on any county agenda until 7 May 2001. that was the day they signed it. But it never was made known at any time or how much it cost by the multi-national law firm from Tulsa who made it up....nor did you ever vote for the trust to be funded by the jail tax as is required by statute and that fact has been comfirmed by an Attorney Generals opinion.or Ask him why Jack Putnam who was the chief jailer of Tulsa county was contracted to be a consultant for the new jail even tho he was forced to resign from the Tulsa County jail since he was facing felony prosecution for "illegal activities". That case was sealed the same way the investigation of Popes was sealed by the DA over in Jackson County. And my case I filed in our county court was not dismissed by facts.... but was dismissed because the paperwork I filed did not meet the requirements of the state courts requirements. Funny thing about lawyers you know... they dont like to make the local DA angry by opposing the local politicos. Makes it hard for them to get DA agreements of their criminal defense contracts.OH yea.... ask who was the E 911 expert Pope hired as the first 911 director..... supposed to have been an expert from Oregon fully E911 trained and qualified.... seems since he didnt get the pay like he figured he was supposed to get he left the county employ and became the City of Lawtons city dump manager.But Pope told everyone he was an E-911 expert. Or does that go along with the little computer acronym... gigo... garbage in,garbage out?......another good question to ask is how Pope found a director for the county nutrition program sitting at a console in the 911 system.... think maybe he used the Rita Hayworth criteria?.... she was forced out later when lots of discrepencies were found. Ask also why he directed 19,000 dollars be taken form 911 funds to buy a Chevy pickup truck to be used by the tax assesors office when we had a contract to adress the county on going at the time. Or why he directed 10,000 dollars of 911 funds be given to the tax assessors office for labor and not one dime of those funds have been returned to the 911 system.
You make mention of the computer systems not being compatible with each other... easy to fix that.... just requires the commissioners to set up a County Budget Board under state title 19 and then they can hire an information technologist.....but then that would require all 3 commissioners to be working with the other elected officals in setting the county budget. Sure would take down the central command in a hurry.... again.. state laws... and do the right thing....but not here in this county.....yet..... but maybe will happen soon...one thing I wish to emphaize... every statement on this opage can be backed up by public reocrds... every bit of it.... I have copies of them and they are available thru the meetings agendas and minutes.... at one time they were available on line back to 1996.... but that super honest good man David Pope had them removed when he saw how easily they could be obtained by the average citizen. But little did he realize they are still on line if one knows how to search out the old web sites.... now it seems the latest minutes are also not being made available... have to see the county clerk for copies..... again... state laws just dont seem to be important to members of our governing body.......oh yes... read up on trusts...... make you cry when you see how they are simply a means to hide all sorts of crooked deals by folks..... and spend moneys recklessly and tax dollars squandered.
I would apprecaite your support in my election and hope you do vote for me. As an active military officer I took an oath to defend the constitution and obey the laws, for me that oath was the third time I did so and at that time I was commissioned as a Regular Army Officer. What that means is even tho I may be retired I can still be called up to serve my contry, but also, that oath still holds true until the day I die.
chuck miller
Still in power
It is sad that she wasn't defeated by the many others in her own party.
Gail
Tell me about it, Gail is still in power, only if he had a pair to use! All I hear is, I don't want to cause any trouble.....
Sometimes you have to ruffle some feathers to get things done..
JotS
County Commissoners
Will, What do you think? Do you think that the trouble with Ben Lehew, and Kirby's Nephew, will come up in the next election? I think that we need to put our efforts in getting rid of one of the county commisoners at a time.
The Deputy
Will
Who is Will??
JotS
Will,
That is my alter ego. Ha! SHouldhave said "Well"
Just checking :)didn't want
Just checking :)
didn't want to miss anything...
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